Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/26/2003 01:32 PM Senate HES

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        SB 109-MEDICAID COST CONTAINMENT & PRIORITY LIST                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRED DYSON announced SB 109 to be up for consideration.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  JOEL GILBERTSON,  Department of  Health and  Social                                                               
Services (DHSS),  said SB 109 is  the third bill in  the Medicaid                                                               
package that is necessary to  bring about fiscal stability to the                                                               
Medicaid program for Alaska. He explained:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     It would  eliminate the Medicaid options  list found in                                                                    
     AS 47.07.035.  This establishes a priority  list of how                                                                    
     the department  will go about bringing  cost savings in                                                                    
     years  in which  the legislature  does not  appropriate                                                                    
     sufficient funds  to carry out Medicaid  operations for                                                                    
     an entire  12-month period. Under the  options list, if                                                                    
     the Legislature  does not allocate funds  to fully fund                                                                    
     the  Medicaid program  for a  year,  the department  is                                                                    
     directed  to work  its  way down  the  options list  to                                                                    
     achieve  the  cost  savings  necessary  to  effectively                                                                    
     manage the program  within the amount of  money that is                                                                    
     appropriated by  the legislature.  The administration's                                                                    
     position  is  that  while  there   must  an  effort  to                                                                    
     administer  the  program  within the  confines  of  the                                                                    
     amount   of  funds   that  are   appropriated  by   the                                                                    
     Legislature,  the   options  list   is  not   the  most                                                                    
     effective  or the  most beneficial  way of  going about                                                                    
     cost  containment.  The  options  list  itself  is  not                                                                    
     reviewed annually and is not  necessarily a list of the                                                                    
     most beneficial ways of going about cost containment.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
As  an   example,  he   noted  DHSS   would  have   to  eliminate                                                               
prescription  drug  coverage and  wheel  chairs  before it  could                                                               
touch  the  eligibility  standards   for  individuals  with  high                                                               
incomes. He continued:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The  Governor's bill  will replace  that language  with                                                                    
     broad  direction to  the department  to engage  in cost                                                                    
     containment  necessary to  achieve  the  same level  of                                                                    
     savings  and will  provide instead,  as guidance,  that                                                                    
     first the  department must pursue all  other reasonable                                                                    
     cost  containment   measures  before   eliminating  any                                                                    
     eligibility group or service.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Second, that the  department should aggressively pursue                                                                    
     strategies to maximize  federal financial participation                                                                    
     in  the  Medicaid  program and  third,  that  the  cost                                                                    
     containment decision should be  made in the manner that                                                                    
     best  reflects  the  needs and  interests  of  eligible                                                                    
     Medicaid  populations. We  believe  with this  guidance                                                                    
     and  direction,   the  department  will   have  greater                                                                    
     flexibility  in  achieving  the   same  level  of  cost                                                                    
     savings without  going through an options  list that it                                                                    
     is  the administration's  position  is not  effectively                                                                    
     managing  the program.  It doesn't  really balance  the                                                                    
     relative  benefits of  cost containment  tools and,  in                                                                    
     addition,  takes  things  off  the  table  until  other                                                                    
     things  are removed  first,  which  we believe  further                                                                    
     exacerbates  the acute  care  costs,  such as  removing                                                                    
     prescription drug  coverage before you  would eliminate                                                                    
     an eligibility  population who is  at the top  level of                                                                    
     our Medicaid  program. The intent  of the  options list                                                                    
     is preserved  in the  Governor's legislation,  which is                                                                    
     directing the  department to initiate  cost containment                                                                    
     measures  to   live  within  its  means   and  what  is                                                                    
     appropriated to it....                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GRETCHEN GUESS  asked if  the cost  containment measures                                                               
have to  be exhausted within the  BRU or the department  and what                                                               
the burden of proof is before services are dropped.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON   responded  that  the   department  has                                                               
regulatory  authority  to  enact  a number  of  cost  containment                                                               
measures  that   bring  about  large  savings   to  the  Medicaid                                                               
population without  actually affecting  eligibility or  a service                                                               
that's   provided,   for    example   pharmaceutical   usage   or                                                               
reimbursement rates to providers.  This would be done department-                                                               
wide where Medicaid services are provided.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS  asked how he  would make those decisions.  She was                                                               
concerned  that the  department  would decide  who  got what  and                                                               
when. She  asked, "How  are you  going to  decide dropping  off a                                                               
population versus dropping  off a procedure and where  is that in                                                               
the  bill?   It  makes  me   very  nervous  to  turn   over  that                                                               
authority...."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
She also wanted  to know if groups of people  would be ineligible                                                               
or individuals would be ineligible.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON said  DHSS  is including  a fiscal  note                                                               
that shows no savings, because  the department doesn't anticipate                                                               
requiring any  additional cost containment  if the  budget passes                                                               
in  the  form  submitted  by  the  Governor.  He  understood  her                                                               
concern, but  thought the department  is in the best  position to                                                               
engage in that  type of policy decision-making.  He thought those                                                               
decisions would  be a  burden for the  Legislature. As  they move                                                               
forward,  his strategy  is to  maintain cost  savings within  the                                                               
program  without  going  towards eligibility  groups.  He  didn't                                                               
think that is necessary. He remarked:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     We  can  bring  about   tremendous  savings  by  moving                                                                    
     forward  on   a  broad   agenda  to   maximize  federal                                                                    
     resources to work with our  travel partners to see ways                                                                    
     we  can capture  a greater  amount of  federal revenues                                                                    
     for carrying  out the trust responsibility  the federal                                                                    
     government    has    for   Alaska    Native    Medicaid                                                                    
     beneficiaries  and working  with the  Denali Commission                                                                    
     to try and  build up capacity within  the tribal health                                                                    
     care system.  Also, we can  have tremendous  savings by                                                                    
     looking at  the way we  provide services in  doing case                                                                    
     management and  looking at  using preferred  drugs that                                                                    
     stay away  from eligibility populations.  Naturally, if                                                                    
     funds  are not  appropriated  to allow  us  to run  the                                                                    
     Medicaid  program  even  after these  cost  containment                                                                    
     measures   are  moved   forward,  we'll   have  to   do                                                                    
     something....                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS  said she trusted  that during  any administration,                                                               
the  department would  try  to  do everything  it  can before  it                                                               
removes people  from the rolls  or removes procedures, but  he is                                                               
asking  the   legislature  to  hand  over   that  decision-making                                                               
authority  to the  department. She  questioned, "How  would costs                                                               
and benefits be weighed in the department?"                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She  also wanted  clarification on  whether DHSS  would determine                                                               
that individuals not  receive a procedure or  group of procedures                                                               
or groups of individuals.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. LABBE responded:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  Medicaid program  structure provides  for coverage                                                                    
     for groups of individuals  that are either mandatory or                                                                    
     optional   in  categories   of   service  rather   than                                                                    
     individual procedures.  For instance, we may  not cover                                                                    
     physical therapy  for, in  this case,  adults. Children                                                                    
     are  mandatory for  the services.  I think  one of  the                                                                    
     things  I was  concerned about  is  if we  had a  large                                                                    
     budget  reduction and  we're starting  to  cut off  all                                                                    
     these  services, we're  only cutting  off services  for                                                                    
     the adult  population -  senior, disabled  adult. We're                                                                    
     not  touching  the  children. At  the  same  time,  the                                                                    
     committee  has  been  discussing  reducing  eligibility                                                                    
     levels  for  kids. It  may  make  more  sense to  do  a                                                                    
     balance and the way the  list is constructed, you would                                                                    
     never  get  to  the  other  discussion  of  eligibility                                                                    
     groups until  you essentially have gone  through all of                                                                    
     the services. So, you would  eliminate wheel chairs and                                                                    
     prescription  drugs   for  some   of  our   more  frail                                                                    
     population  and may  still  be  covering higher  income                                                                    
     individual children,  which is  why I've not  felt this                                                                    
     is an effective tool for a long time.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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MR.  LABBE  said  they  can   make  decisions  on  groups,  broad                                                               
eligibility  guidelines  and  on  services,  but  the  department                                                               
doesn't  have  the ability  to  make  discrete decisions  on  one                                                               
individual's access to a single procedure.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS  noted that the  bill contains no  requirement that                                                               
the department submit a report to  the legislature yet it makes a                                                               
big change in  policy in one year. She recommended  that a report                                                               
to the legislature be required.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON thought that might go into the "Measures" section.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROBERT  BRIGGS, staff  attorney,  Disability  Law Center  of                                                               
Alaska,  Juneau,  raised  some  important  points.  If  the  bill                                                               
passes,  the department's  exercise of  discretion will  still be                                                               
constrained  by   the  Administrative  Procedures  Act   and  the                                                               
department must comply with federal  mandates to provide services                                                               
that are sufficient in amount,  duration, and scope to accomplish                                                               
the  purposes of  the Act.  However, this  bill raises  potential                                                               
constitutional issues.  The Alaska Supreme  Court in the  case of                                                               
State v. Fairbanks North Star  Borough, 1987, found the issues of                                                               
delegation   of  legislative   appropriation  of   authority  and                                                               
separation of powers unconstitutional.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There is also  the potential argument that section 3  of the bill                                                               
raises equal  protection problems.  It basically talks  about how                                                               
cost  containment measures  will  be implemented  and appears  to                                                               
grandfather-in  the  benefits  of  those people  who  were  lucky                                                               
enough to  have their benefits  approved and in place  before the                                                               
cost containment measures are implemented.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  asked  if  Mr.  Briggs  was  suggesting  that  this                                                               
approach  would be  dubious if  scrutinized by  the court  if the                                                               
department didn't  do a fair  job of looking after  the interests                                                               
of people.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRIGGS said  he just wanted to raise the  question and hedged                                                               
that  his research  is dated  and relates  back to  the pro  rata                                                               
reductions bill.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON pointed out that this bill is different.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRIGGS agreed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GREEN  moved   to  pass  SB  109   from  committee  with                                                               
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal note.                                                                    
SENATOR DAVIS objected.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The motion  to move SB  109 from committee carried  with SENATORS                                                               
GREEN, WILKEN and  DYSON voting yea and SENATORS  GUESS AND DAVIS                                                               
voting nay.                                                                                                                     

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